On Nonsense - Liveblogging the VP debate

2100: I now have money riding on this.

2102: Biden - the failure of the government to respond to the economic crisis proves that the market has failed. Everyone who opposes Biden is a rabid laissez faire capitalist, even though both campaigns support the bailout.

2105: Palin thinks that John McCain is responsible for the probable success of the bailout bill and future oversight.

2107: Palin - McCain not wrong on the economy being sound because American workers are "the best" and saying the economy isn't doing well makes them feel bad.

2109: Palin - "Darn right it was the predator lenders." Wall Street is corrupt, also evil. Good to hear that Palin is on board with the 'fix the economy by putting people in jail' plan. I'm also glad to know that we're thinking of putting usury back on the list of threats to society.

2110: Biden is pulling out the old deregulatory trope and blaming it on George Bush. Never mind that the '90s were a massive period of deregulation, or that that regulatory expenditure expanded massively under George W. Bush.

2114: Oh God. Is Palin listing her record as Mayor as a qualification to be President and manage the American economy? She is right about McCain wanting to regulate whatever tickles his fancy, though.

2115: Biden reinforces the real issue of this debate - massive run on sentences. Corporations are not part of America now, too.

2116: Palin thinks patriotism is refusing to be regulated or taxed. Do either of these people know what patriotism is? Also - Palin makes a legitimate point about healthcare regulation across state lines.

2118: Biden argues that redistributing wealth is just "fairness," while demanding that the government not tax the wealthy's healthcare to pay for healthcare for the poor. Tyler Cowen is right - Americans really, really, really don't like means testing.

2120: Biden says that he will cut John McCain's tax cuts from his administration's future programs to counterbalance Barack Obama's spending. Unfortunately, budgetary credit may not transfer across alternate universes where Obama and McCain are simultaneously President. Hiring foreigners is now "unpatriotic" too.

2122: More oil company tax break football. She refuses to take anything off the table, simultaneously leave Americans alone while eliminating greed and passing a massive financial bailout bill.

2125: Great. They all agree on the windfall profits oil tax as a solution to our economic woes. Lowest common denominator politics at their finest.

2126: Please. Stop. Saying. Corruption. And. Greed. Does the term "market failure" mean anything to you?

2128: Palin always has to answer her last topic before addressing the current one. Someone's finally matched Biden in blowhardiness. She's also passed the essential political test of blaming foreign people and their filthy foreign oil for our economic problems.

2130: Being from "our nation's only Arctic state" qualifies her on environmental issues, too. "Real changes are goin' on in our climate." "Effect the impacts." Also, switching to domestic oil apparently will reduce warming, since, as we all know, everything foreign is more dirty.

2132: Biden really shouldn't be criticizing McCain for coming out against biofuels.

2133: Palin is proud of hosting the country's most expensive pipeline? I guess they're only wasteful earmarks when Alaskans don't like them. She also pronounces nuclear the "folksy" way.

2136: Same old conservative gay marriage trope. But she's tolerant and her family is diverse, so it's OK. Of course, nor does Biden support redefining marriage. Can these two agree on a good idea?

2139: More adulation for Petraeus. Why don't we let this guy be President?

2141: Barack and Joe think it's time for the Iraqis to start fixing their own stupid country. Since when is it our responsibility to take care of countries that we destroy?

2142: Palin - SURRENDER! THE SURGE! THE SURGE! THE SUUUURRRRRRGGGGE! More backhanded compliments to Biden on opposing all of Obama's votes.

2143: Biden argues that McCain was incorrect in arguing Iraq could pay for its own reconstruction, yet argues exactly this position now.

2145: Time to roll out the Pakistani disaster bandwagon. Biden thinks Pakistan is going to nuke Israel? I wasn't aware Pakistan gave a damn about that part of the Middle East. Biden wants to support the Pakistani democracy by illegally violating its borders whenever we feel like it.

2146: Palin - Petraeus thinks the central front of the war on terror is in Iraq, so it is. Always and forever.

2150: There really is no point to discussing diplomacy as a contrast issue without "nuance," is there?

2151: "Never again" applies to both Israel and... American homeowners. Took until now for Palin to apply it to the former, though.

2152: Joe Biden needs to stop referring to Joe Biden in the third person.

2153: Barack Obama and Biden are against ill-advised wars against Muslim countries unless they're Pakistan or... Lebanon? Do any Americans really think putting troops into Lebanon again is a good idea? Why is this a talking point now?

2154: "I'm so encouraged to know we both love Israel."

2155: Biden wants to know how John McCain's position differs from Bush's on Pakistan, Iran, and Iraq - increasingly, McCain differs by not moving toward's Obama's positions, for better or worse.

2156: Palin wants to implement the "surge principles" in Afghanistan... Without mentioning what exactly those are.

2158: For all Biden's bluster about arms control, he needs to explain how this is going to be possible when we go after Osama in Pakistan.

2159: Palin knows McClellan's name! Too bad she's about 150 years off.

2200: Biden thinks the American public has the stomach for success. Biden is against wars that aren't his idea. Good to know.

2202: Yes, Sarah Palin, it is very obvious you're a Washington outsider. But we can't blame you for trying to fit in with that flip-flopping speech.

2204: Biden think he can revoke the sovereignty of other countries and then invade them - that makes it OK.

2205: John McCain, on the other hand, knows how to win wars on his own.

2210: "Joe Biden's Neighborhood" sounds like it has potential as a CSPAN children's show.

2211: Shout out to 3rd graders. Is this a first?

2208: Palin winked again. What does it all mean?

2214: I WIN PALIN BINGO. A great day for all Americans who are me.

2218: "America is a nation of exceptionalism." Exceptional something, I'll give you that. Wait. Did she just misattribute "City on a hill?"

2224: Biden brings up the one court case Palin still knows.

2228: It's almost over. Thank God, it's almost over. Please let this never happen again. These are by far two of the most - "national security freedoms?" What?

2230: Joe Biden makes one last gasp attempt to show he hates CEOs more than Sarah Palin. Anyway, please let these two never appear in tandem for an extended period ever, ever again.